El hermano de Joey Ramone acordándose de cositas... bueno, acordándose de Johnny más bien

 
juanconmiedo
(@juanconmiedo)
Miembro desde 1970 Autores

pipeando mierdas varias me encuentro este comentario en el caralibro de johnny al respecto del ingreso en el rock and roll hall of fame:

Mickey Leigh

the RRHOF committee told my mom and i to prepare something to say for when they'd bring us up to represent for him and accept Joey's award on his behalf. Of course, both of us were still grieving his loss, but accepting Joey's award would have made her so happy, and relieved some of the grief. I would've just mentioned that when we were kids, pre =HOF, even watching other kids get asked by Dick Clark on American Bandstand to "Rate a Record" was something we didn't miss - just to see if the bands we liked were also liked by the other kids. Accepting his award, holding it in his hand would, most definitely have been the pinnacle for him. I would've reminded the audience that no one who ever won that award had a more difficult path in reaching that high a plateau. That, as Dr's told my mother and I in the 60' and early 70's, that due to his severe OCD and other, more minimal, maladies, my brother would never have a normal life, would never be able to function in society on his own, hold down a job or have a chance at a career. They said he was incapable of achieving "success", in the traditional sense of the word. And, as his mom and I never let him believe that, we, but she, especially, are moved beyond just feeling immensely proud of him. In my opinion, it's a miracle. And people should know what he overcame, because his story will inspire millions of people and kids to never give up on themselves. I'm sure he didn't do it intentionally, but while Eddie Vedder was still a long way from the end of his historically long induction speech,a RRHOF representative came to our table and told my mom and I that they were now running over-schedule and did not think there would be time to bring us up to accept Joey's award. They said the only thing you can do is go up with the band. A few weeks before the RRHOF inductions, John said in an article in the Village Voice that he wanted Joey's mother as far away from him as possible at the induction ceremony. My mom and I looked over to where the band was lined up about to go on stage, and caught enough of John's disdainful glare to look at each other and say... "Ya know what will happen if we walk over there and tell them we're coming up with them to accept Jeff's award? He's not going to allow it. He's already said as much. That's why they were going to bring us up separately. As some of you might know, Joey's award remained standing there on the podium on the stage when the rest of them walked off. It was tossed down by a stagehand during the set changeover.My/Joey's mom was so hurt she didn't want even talk to anyone after that. The HOF committee had gotten us a room in the Waldorf, and we just went up to the room. She cried. I stayed with her for about an hour...then went to Phil Spector's party. But, i couldn't stop thinking about how hurt my mom was. It should've been a beautiful experience for her. It certainly would've eased her grieving. But, it turned out to be one of the most horrible, sad, hurtful, insulting nights of her life. This was all John's doing, and John alone. (though, obviously supported by Linda - who, was gleeful as my mom and I sat there at our table, helpless to do anything more to rectify this spiteful act of John's. Though she now says she was talking to Joey constantly, behind John's back, until the day Joey died. And that she had a great relationship with my/Joey's mom ..until the day she died. She didn't even walk over to our table to say hello to her. I don't think the reason why she didn't leave John's table to say a few words to my mother is hard to figure out. She wouldn't have dared risk defying John, or his plan to punish Joey's mother ( who, at the point, was John's partner in Ramones Productions having inherited Joey's half.) So, he succeeded in doing so. And, less than year after losing her son, she had to endure that experience, and suffer the bullying from the same person who'd bullied her son He denied a mother who'd just lost her son the greatest pleasure she could have received at that time. And, sadly, he did it viciously, and with pure venom. Thankfully, after 10 years and much prodding, the RRHOF held a ceremony officially inducting Joey and allowing his family to accept his award and let them and Joey's friends finally celebrate the honor. Sorry, but, it's hard to be reminded of that night. I'm thrilled that it was a great experience for Tommy, and thrilled for the Ramones - one of my favorite bands. But, what a horribly disrespectful thing to do to your band mate, and despicable treatment of his lead singer's mother. i know. I Hate to spoil the party with this tragic backstory - but, it was tragic seeing Joey's award left sitting on the podium, and his mother denied the right to accept it on his behalf by a scornful bully. But, that was John. So, I guess that act was fitting. John was my band mate and best friend for several years when i was a teenager. There was something very likable about him, and he could be a whole lotta fun to hang out with. ... I forgive him. We began to speak as friends again after things got sorted out with he and my mom, regarding their co-ownership of Ramones Productions. I had always remained friendly with John's mom, Stella - who i'd known since i was 14 - and tried to help her after John passed away. Ironically, Stella, herself, became the victim of another bully. ..one who punished her so brutally and cruelly that ...it's almost impossible for me to conceive that someone could be so cruel to the elderly, cancer stricken mother of a person they purport to love and respect. You might think that is personal business, and none of mine. But the story of Stella Cummings' plight was printed in newspapers and still easily found on the internet = I'm not divulging any personal secrets here. I felt, and still feel outrage at the way Stella was made to suffer after her son died. But, it's hard for me to forget the pain her son caused MY mom (and, to a lesser extent, my brother as well, regarding this otherwise miraculous occurrence. * I have no reason to hide this ugliness, and no qualms about speaking of this historical , though, unfortunate fact about Joey Ramone's thwarted (non) induction into the Rock n Roll Hall of Fame, and the Trophy he was not awarded. For one thing, it's the truth, and the truth about this SHOULD be told -for Joey's sake, if no one else's. He was horribly disrespected. -- And, i have no problem talking about this because this story will have ABSOLUTELY no impact whatsoever on the Ramones legacy.-- It's just a shame things had to be that way. But, it's just another chapter in the weird tales of the RAMONES. I'd never want to take away any credit from John for what he accomplished. He's largely responsible for bringing so much to the world - at least the world of rock n roll. I'm proud of him, my brother, Tommy and Doug as could be. So many great songs. Such a fun, funny, exciting band. ...i worked hard for them because i loved that band from the first moment i heard them. I guess, even before i heard them - when my brother wrote I Don't Care & Here Today, Gone Tomorrow on my Yamaha acoustic guitar. As raw and simplistic as it was, it was enough to save me, and and a good portion of the planet from a world full of Crocodile Rock. And, every time i hear one of their songs - even for the 1000th time, i'm thankful. - Johnny, you light up my life. ? -THANKS! -- thanks to whoever reads this for listening.... if you catch it in time. (* I have no doubt this post will be deleted as soon as the operator of this page is alerted about it.
 
 
Muy Ramones la intrahistoria esta 😉

 

Citar
Topic starter Respondido : 06/07/2022 3:21 pm
Padrecito
(@padrecito)
Bien de pies Autores

Buf... me da penita leer cosas así. Son cosas que a veces no llegan ni a puñalada... son pequeñas mezquindades, una detrás de otra, para... que se yo para qué.

Quedémonos con lo bueno.

ResponderCitar
Respondido : 06/07/2022 7:12 pm
juanconmiedo
(@juanconmiedo)
Miembro desde 1970 Autores

comentario de un fan a un libro sobre la banda: "I knew Johnny personally . He was good guy to know and treated me very kindly. Put me on his guest lists when the Ramones came to Connecticut and met with me backstage before each show. The claims of his dislike of black people may be true but that claim is lost on my black a** . I will treasure my time spent with him . The book was an interesting read".

 

jajajajaj!

Esta publicación ha sido modificada el hace 5 meses 2 veces por juanconmiedo
ResponderCitar
Topic starter Respondido : 14/07/2022 3:09 pm
Padrecito
(@padrecito)
Bien de pies Autores

Bueno, pero es que el es un negrito bueno.

Spoiler
pero...

"Pero todos sabemos que hay otros negros.

Negros malos.

Y todos sabemos que respuesta merecen mientras nos quede gasolina!"[/spoiler]

ResponderCitar
Respondido : 15/07/2022 11:29 am
Compartir: